Posts by the mole

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should i go?

by the mole in

my sister called me and asked if my family would go to her house for lunch and attend a special talk given by another family member that morning.

she is making sort of a party of it and she asked me to attend.

i dont know what to do?

my sister called me and asked if my family would go to her house for lunch and attend a special talk given by another family member that morning. she is making sort of a party of it and she asked me to attend. i dont know what to do?

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HELP! How do you answer the Elders without incriminating yourself?

by stichione in

i?m due soon for a shepherding call from my congregation elders for a variety of reasons: being irregular in service, s poradically attending meetings, and o h yes, writing in a letter to the society asking for clarifications on the blood ban.

i?m sure that one question that they will be asking me is: d

o you believe that jehovah is using the organization as his only approved channel of communication?

the mole

the elders did ask me that one simple question at the end of our discussion we traded scriptures for a moment the he asked again..i chickened out and lied...they would have df'd me.. i have uncles that are elders and they stated thats what they would have recommended if a member said no..i was an m.s. at the time and they felt they were grooming me to be an elder so they usualy answered questions without beating around the bush.....now i post meetings, km info, and assembly info to diffrent sites so me being df'd is not likely yet, maybe soon, but not yet...

pioneer or puds?

by the mole in

***the mole*** i have to say here is another example of my family and the jw's ignorance..i was in desperate need of a tempory car while mine was in the shop.

my engine blew and i needed wheels to get to work and pick up my kids from school.

my uncle was selling his ford granada so i approached him and asked him to sell it to me and he gave me a price of $1200.

the mole

***the mole*** i have to say here is another example of my family and the jw's ignorance..i was in desperate need of a tempory car while mine was in the shop. my engine blew and i needed wheels to get to work and pick up my kids from school. my uncle was selling his ford granada so i approached him and asked him to sell it to me and he gave me a price of $1200. i told him it was too high and my money was going to my new engine. i advised him the car has 200 thousand miles and pretty banged up but he would not budge on the price.. i found out from my cousin that he sold the same car to a pioneer for $500.00 and that the young girls family was pretty well to do. here i was desperate but was given no option but a girl wanting to spend her allowance money was given a good deal. this is the kind of example why so many are leaving. ...the jw's train its members to overwhelm the newbies with love and generosity but yet neglect those in need. i have seen moms go without help and told to get welfare but the new recruits get all the attention. i told my sister the same issue and advised her i seen her reject family who dont believe yet take of stranger and offer attention and with better love than her own family recieves. my uncle frank is a hypocrite pleasing a church member than helping someone in need and that my sister is the same by rejecting me for leaving the org and not helping my children at least. ......the org must fall and as long as we only complain without taking action many friends and coworkers will fall prey to evil and unjust thinking.....***the mole***

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my first birthday party in years

by the mole in

***the mole**** hi everyone, here is another story of my family and the jw's thinking.

my party started off for my coworkers since we may be laid off real soon with the cingular buyout.

all my friends were all for the party.

the mole

***the mole**** hi everyone, here is another story of my family and the jw's thinking. my party started off for my coworkers since we may be laid off real soon with the cingular buyout. all my friends were all for the party. it leaked out that my birthday was close to the same weekend. My cousin found out from a friend and it all mutated from there. well, my sister came that saturday of my party for whatever reason and walked in uninvited. everyone was pretty loaded by the time she showed up at 7pm. from the corner of my eye i seen her walk into my backyard then stare at everyone and left. i tried to catch her and have her stay but i missed her since she left so fast......here is the situation. my brother in law called first to lecture me on birthdays and drunkeness.. then elders stopped by and wanted to know my spirituality...i found it remarkable that know one gives a damn about me but yet they have enough effort to spoil my fun and check up on me knowing what i think about the org. ...i made it clear that i only showup on sundays if there is no games playing or local assemblies to keep up with the info, more or less spying on the org. my first party and my sister comes to check it out and report it..how sad, how sad for the elders in my hall that they had nothing better to do on a beautiful saturday then come to see me...the mole

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My last post will be on 4/22/04

by Brownboy in

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now is your chance to post your true sentiments.

this date will be my last post.. feel free to ridicule, humiliate, scorn, ravage, or whatever you all are used to..................as a disciple of christ, i should expect it.. brownboy

the mole

i really doubt its your last time. to much now in your thoughts to really believe everything spewn from the stage. i think you want to see what reaction you would get. its ok. i had my doubts about leaving, in fact i never really left. i still attend but not for the sake of belief but for the sake of warning everyone of the coming events. i was once told by a c.o. that they would be able to see who is the weak and the strong because the weak who dont attend or fell away would be like the scriptures where the israelites new by way of how one spoke to weed out those from judea. so i promise you i will inform you and all those who read this, so what i write from our talks the elders will never know your from judea...the mole...

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The JW Effect ? Lack of life planning

by Gopher in

as jw?s we were taught that the day of jehovah was always near.

we were to keep it close in mind.

those using the world were not to ?use it to the full?.

the mole

i too was effect by such thinking. my father df'd for it my mom later df'd for thinking of it. just recently i wrote about how my mom and me discussed the same topic. she admitted to me she regretted listening to those me. i told how i was stunted in my education and my dream of playing baseball soured because of their false thinking in the late 70's and early 80's. so much i missed out because of the repeated talks of death and destruction of the last days. i think im stunted in making normal friend because i was always told that everyone would die so why bother having worldly friends. college and high school was so looked down upon i was forced to grad early with minimal skills. it took my courage to break away and go to college and finish my black belt later in my twenties. what sucks is i went back and got baptised only to leave again with more disgust than ever. i made a promise to my kids never shall they be enslaved in a fools paradise of ignorance. ..the mole

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The Watchtower - A Waste of Paper and Time? ( May 1, 2004)

by metatron in

often, when you pick up a copy of the watchtower, you'll notice some articles that.

give good counsel.

they may advise elders to lovingly care for the flock, teenagers to.

the mole

i couldnt have said it any better

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More Ex-Witnesses than Witnesses?

by OHappyDay in

jehovah's witnesses use the number of the mighty 6 million (tm) to "prove" that god is blessing them over and above all other religions.

but with so many being disfellowshipped and leaving over the past decades, how many ex-witnesses are there?

with thousands growing wiser and more dissatisfied with wt doctrine, might the number of ex-witnesses over the years now equal the number of witnesses?

the mole

i remember when i was an m.s. taking attendance children and all adults are counted and added as members..it was wierd but that is what they did..i also remember the co in my area counted all people active and inactive as members..only the df'd were not counted. my guess was that out of 75 in our all they always calculated around a 106 total members. i asked one time and the co explained that many are sick at home or elderly. but i dont believe thats was all true. i knew of many who simply dropped out but were still being counted..the mole

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should i go or should i not go? the memorial?

by the mole in

my sister called and invited my family to have dinner with her after the services were held for the memorial.

she had planned this large dinner and said she had wine and plenty of sweets.

the kids and i go with her to attend the memorial?

the mole

go kings...

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should i go or should i not go? the memorial?

by the mole in

my sister called and invited my family to have dinner with her after the services were held for the memorial.

she had planned this large dinner and said she had wine and plenty of sweets.

the kids and i go with her to attend the memorial?

the mole

my sister called and invited my family to have dinner with her after the services were held for the memorial. she had planned this large dinner and said she had wine and plenty of sweets. the kids and i go with her to attend the memorial? ................for those of you who has been keeping up with my family this was so unexpected i was shocked. just a few weeks ago she set me up with elders at her house and scorned my sons karate lessons..this time the gang will surround me if show up at thier hall, i just know it. to decline is the best thing to do and so i did. then a knock at my door. well, my local elders wanted to invite me and guess what? the elder that i scared a month while he did his sheparding call came back and he was surprised at my knowledge so back and forth with smiles and words we thumb wrestled with script and org policy only to have them leave without leaving a flyer of the time and date of the memorial. i have a feeling my wit beat them up and they are going to leave me alone from now on....so guilt for not going? no way! ......i wrather see a game..GO SACRAMENTO KINGS!.....the mole>>>